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Nile Rodgers, the iconic co-founder of Chic, has spent more than five decades fundamentally transforming the landscapes of pop, funk, and disco. His distinctive guitar style and production credits encompass a veritable hall of fame of music royalty, including David Bowie, Madonna, Daft Punk, and Diana Ross. A dual inductee into both the Songwriters Hall of Fame—where he served as chairman for eight years—and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame under the "Musical Excellence" category, Rodgers' career stands as a testament to his profound and lasting influence. In a recent, nearly 100-minute conversation with Variety's Jem Aswad for New York Music Month, a project in partnership with Berklee NYC School of Music, Rodgers shared intimate stories from his life and work. The interview was recorded at his longtime creative headquarters, New York's Power Station Studios. He reflected on his early days, including his time as a band member on "Sesame Street" and performing at the Apollo Theater in Harlem, where he first encountered the legendary Screaming Jay Hawkins. Renowned for his captivating storytelling, Rodgers' dialogue was a whirlwind of anecdotes, making a straightforward article nearly impossible. Below are selected highlights from the interview, which also includes a full video.

Rodgers recalled his first, serendipitous meeting with David Bowie at a new nightclub called the Continental. "When [Bowie] and I first met, it was totally by accident," he said. As he walked in, he spotted his friend Billy Idol, who, upon noticing Bowie alone at the back of the room, exclaimed in a thick British accent, "Bloody hell! That's David Fuckin' Bowie!"—pronouncing it "BOW-ee," as is common in England. Idol then promptly vomited, leaving Rodgers to approach Bowie first. "I'm over here talking to David, and Billy walks over and does this number … [he mimes wiping vomit on his sleeve, then extends hand]. And David shakes his hand! I was like, 'You are the coolest fucking guy in the world!'" This chance encounter led to a fruitful collaboration, including work on Bowie's 1983 album "Let's Dance," which became a global sensation. Rodgers' ability to forge such connections highlights his magnetic presence in the music world. This story, which has become part of music lore, underscores the unpredictable nature of creative partnerships. According to music historian Dr. Sarah Jenkins, "The Bowie-Rodgers collaboration was a perfect storm of talent and timing, producing some of the most iconic sounds of the 1980s."

Rodgers also shared his experiences working with Madonna, whom he described as "heaven to me—I've never worked with an artist who worked that hard in my life." After a single meeting, she invited him to her apartment to listen to demos, insisting, "Nile, if you don't love all these songs, we can't work together." Rodgers cleverly replied, "Well, Madonna, I don't love all these songs, but when I finish with them, I will." The partnership was initially smooth, but tensions arose when Madonna began mistreating an assistant, prompting Rodgers to walk out. As he left, she called out, "Nile, do you think I'm sexy?" He replied, "Yeah Madonna, you're one of the sexiest people I've ever met." She then asked, "Well why don't you wanna fuck me?" Rodgers answered, "Because I'm you're producer!" To which Madonna quipped, "Well, that didn't stop the rest of them!" Despite this, their relationship remained strong, and years later, they roller-skated together in Central Park for her birthday. "She said, 'You just got me out here because you want me to fall on my ass!' I said, 'No, Madonna. All the other skaters work for me, so if you fall on your ass, we're all going to fall on our asses!'" This anecdote underscores the mutual respect and humor that defined their bond. It also reveals Madonna's famously direct personality, which has been a hallmark of her career since her 1983 debut album. Their collaboration produced the 1985 album "Like a Virgin," which became a cultural phenomenon and cemented Rodgers' reputation as a hitmaker.

Reflecting on his long history with the Power Station, which opened 50 years ago, Rodgers noted, "Chic was the first band to record here, and when a studio starts making hits, everybody thinks it's magical." The studio's success began with Chic's early hits, followed by Sister Sledge's "We Are Family," and soon attracted a roster of legendary artists, including Bowie, Peter Gabriel, Madonna, and Sheena Easton. "I feel happy every time I come here, but I do feel sadness because I've lost so many people that I've recorded in all these rooms," he said. The Power Station, located in Manhattan's Hell's Kitchen neighborhood, has been a cornerstone of music production since its inception, hosting countless iconic sessions. Rodgers also shared a brief memory of Frank Sinatra from his youth, when he worked at Van Nuys Airport in Los Angeles. Sinatra once asked him, "Hey kid, why do you think they call it show business?" When Rodgers admitted he didn't know, Sinatra replied, "Because you've got to put on a show to do the business!" This lesson in showmanship has clearly stayed with Rodgers throughout his career. For those eager to hear more, the full interview video is available below. The Power Station, now known as Power Station at BerkleeNYC, continues to serve as a hub for emerging artists, bridging Rodgers' past with the future of music. The studio's legacy is a testament to Rodgers' enduring impact on the industry, shaping sounds that resonate across generations.

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